Comments on: Paid Mods Are a Good Thing (but don’t worry, my mods will always be free) https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/ Just a girl who likes video games. Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.18 By: Wind10 https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-154690 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:32:24 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-154690 In reply to Passerby.

Also, think it’s kind of ironic considering this website has hacks of IOS games :p

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By: Wind10 https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-154689 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 01:31:06 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-154689 In reply to Passerby.

I know this is old but I’d like to address this (especially since this system is still a hot topic to consider, especially with Fallout 4 coming out), as someone that would rather see free mods overall but still try to flesh out the idea of paid mods. See, the thing is that in a market economy, competition would more or less sort this out, eventually. But that’s exactly the problem, there is no traditional market economy, so to speak and there is already a huge and established “open-source” system. The introduction of a market system would destroy this, even if it does come back to “fix it”. SKSE would not able to keep a price of $100 (unless there is intervention by Bethesda) since, I’m sure, there would be others that would sell a competing product for much less. I mean there are already people that put their products over paywalls, hell there are those that people OTHER peoples mods over paywalls.

Still if you look at it, games like Second Life have been quite successful using such a system, relatively and arguably of course. The problem here, as the above have said, is that many mods depend on other mods and this would create a further stalled system. Overall, a paid mod system would not work out if it formatted in a similar manner as the previous one. I’m also sure that many modders will group together (or get taken advantage of) by “corporate groups”. Look at TSR (The Sims Resource), their paywall system didn’t really work out as many of their “VIP” mods got pirated and they eventually switched to a pure ad system (not to mention their illegal actions).

I personally think that a donate and ad-based system for modders would work the best. It seems to be working for the Nexus, TSR, Curse, etc. There are just too many issues with direct-paid mods. There’s a market and it could be achieved but as we have noticed, the backlash from it wouldn’t bold well for the community, not to mention all the other issues that come from it.

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By: Passerby https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152547 Mon, 04 May 2015 07:45:36 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152547 In reply to GameGeeks.

I Agree with GameGeeks. if essential mods which is used for almost every all other mods like SKSE, SkyUI, FNIS, SexLab Framework, and some others are have to be paid, i can’t even imagine that i can continue to mod skyrim anymore. For example : SKSE’s price is $100, if we can’t afford that, then we have no future in playing skyrim with mods, if that happen, pay $100 or bear with playing skyrim w/o mods. And if they sell it for $400 then…….!!!!! Not to mention other essential mods like SkyUI, FNIS, SexLab Framework, SFO, SMIM, CoT, ELFX, etc. As for me myself, i can’t play skyrim w/o mods, it just sucks.
Well we can always use the simplest and best method to avoid paying, uninstall skyrim.

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By: GameGeeks https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152414 Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:52:34 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152414 I don’t believe paid mods would lead to better mods. As you’ve said, mods like Falskaar came out before this debacle. Not to mention all the mods the use modder’s resources. Resources that could now very well dry up because people don’t want others profiting off of their work. And what of joint projects? How would those be handled? Paid mods would just destroy that. Now take Sky UI and it going paid only. Now how many Skyrim mods depend on that mod to work? How many people are going to find their mods depending on it in the future break because of this? Suddenly you have a situation where you have to pay money for these key mods. What if SKSE went money only? Seems almost every big mod uses that one. All this will do, and already has done, is create another piracy market. All the while destroying the good will the community has built up over the years. Along with mods that shouldn’t be charged for like a simple re-skin going for five dollars. These are the types of things that will happen. It’s not a matter of it but when. Now donations would be fine. The Nexus does this and it’s commendable. Heck, you ask for donations so you can appreciate that much. A straight up pay wall is not. Especially when you’ll have people selling mods for indie developer prices. Games that took a lot more effort to make then a re-skinned sword. There’s just no way to police this kind of thing and it’ll devolve into chaos.

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By: Chris https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152384 Sat, 25 Apr 2015 07:42:20 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152384 Steam isn’t just a middleman though, are they?
Aren’t they the ones hosting all the data for the mods and providing the method to download it all?
From what I know I don’t think they’re any more a middleman than my local supermarket is for me and the farmers.

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By: garyoster https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152370 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:32:54 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152370 I’d like modders to get the lion’s share for sure. And there are certainly ways to pay modders when their work is used as part of another modders work. You don’t want a modder making minor change to another moddder’s work and making 100% of the revenue most of the time, so it’s essentially a licensing agreement wherein the original modder gets a percentage of another modder’s sale based on the degree to which the derivative work is comprised of another developer’s mod.

I’m going to change your mind on Valve/Steam getting a cut because it is they who provide the service, handle the payments and customer service, including what to do when a modder falls off the face of the planet and their mod breaks, crediting refunds, and, of course, maintaining a popular site which improves sales. They’re not really middlemen, but service providers and system managers.

But I can’t see them raking in such a large percentage, either. Maybe 10% of a sale. Maybe 20% if their splitting that with the game publisher

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By: Lucius https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152369 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:29:59 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152369 In reply to Xariann.

Microsoft Flight Simulator isn’t say, Skyrim or Fallout.

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By: Xariann https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152368 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 21:09:43 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152368 I also quite agree with your view.

Paid mods aren’t a new thing either and some people are totally unaware that in simulations such as Microsoft Flight Simulator paid mods exist and some of them are also quite expensive. There is also no guarantee that such mods will work with your current mod set up, and trying to prevent conflicts with so many variables is just not possible.

However they decide to split the revenue, I think modders should be allowed to get some revenue and I also think that enough time for a refund should be granted so that people can return mods that conflict with their set up.

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By: girlplaysgame https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152367 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 20:49:31 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152367 In reply to Ottemis.

Thanks Otte!! :D

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By: Ottemis https://girlplaysgame.com/2015/04/24/paid-mods-are-a-good-thing-but-dont-worry-my-mods-will-always-be-free/comment-page-1/#comment-152365 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 20:38:10 +0000 http://www.girlplaysgame.com/?p=2999#comment-152365 Much agreed actually, nice read.

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